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Friday, 03 July 2009
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Mykhailo Syrota: “There’s a whore-house in Odesa with 3 and 6-year old children. How can a deputy without immunity expose it?”

March26200815:45

“There’s a whore-house in Odesa where 3 to 6-year old kids are used as prostitutes. Officially, it is called the Zhemchuzhyna orphanage and in which 60 boys and girls live. They are regularly raped by adult clients. Who provides a cover for it? - The law-enforcement agencies. I have to do something about it. A have a 6-year old grandson, and when I think that my grandson can be one of them, I can kill the criminals with my bare hands. Now they tell me that vice is easier to be dealt with when my deputy immunity from prosecution is lifted. But a lawmaker must be protected against coercion and harassment from anyone, law-enforcement including,” Mykhailo Syrota of Lytvyn bloc and leader of the Labor party of Ukraine, said in his March 25 press conference in Lviv held at the ZIK information agency. -

In his opinion, if the immunity is lifted, deputies will not be able to stand by the interests of the people. “If you begin to oppose criminals, you will be destroyed, to say the least,” Syrota said.

“There’s a clichй calling, ”let’s harmonize deputy immunity with European standards.” One cannot argue with it. But the deputy immunity is present in Europe even more than in Ukraine. For instance, a deputy in Slovakia cannot be arrested until his death. To prosecute a Swedish deputy, 5/6th of the legislature support is needed. In civilized countries, it is the parliament that curbs corruption in state power,” the lawmaker noted.



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  • 02:3425.05.08 Dear Editor
    • Mr. van der Craats has used this and other sites to smear numerous people, most of whom work in childcare and/or political reform in Ukraine. The blogspot smear site to which he refers was written and produced by -- Mr. van der Craats. Mr. van der Craats chose of his own accord to attempt to use this article and comments for yet another shot at his smear campaign, thus distracting from the content of what this article is actually about: CHILD RAPE under sanction of Ukrainian authorities.
  • 02:3923.04.08 Anthony van der Craats
    • I confess I posted in this thread under stolen identites. It was all me exceptt what that Sheila person wrot. It's what I do for a living. Smetimes I gett excited an carried away when talking about child rape becas I am a pedophile. I can't live in Australia any more, but Ukraine isn't so fussy. But I only do little girls, because doing little boys is for the most sick people. I work at Magic Camp in Ukrain, but they don't know about me and pleas don't tell thm. That's why I attack other peoples sometimes or most of the time. Nobody likes me. I am very sick person but nobody will help me. Please help me. I want to go to Odessa for the babies, and I was going to go but then this article appeared and got in the way. Please help me. I am not such bad person, I just like to hurt people that's all. It's much easier in Ukraine. If kids at Magic Camp say anything, well they can't because they know I want give them more candy if they do and I told them I will hurt their parents and familys and dog or cat. I here that being honest is a good thing, i dont know because I never really tryed because it seems dangerous like in Australia being honest about liking childern so much just was a problm. My typping goes bad when I am excited alos. I decide some honesty now is worth atry. I dont want to stop molesting kids, I just want to do it wihtout soe much problem. Please help me.
  • 00:0219.04.08 UkrLastYear
    • The Nestor below is really a giveaway. The writing style indicates very clearly that the poster is none other than Anthony van der Craats, the failed Australian politician (well 5 votes can hardly be a success!)
  • 19:5602.04.08 Sheila Hanna
    • Nestor,
      i did not ask for your opinion, nor do I want it. Clearly you missed the point of my last two postings or you wouldn't just be continuing to whine about the mean people who don't like you. If you have no meaningful, on-topic commentary to add, then stop typing. I will not allow you to pull me into these stupid games and will not respond to your postings further unless they refer only to the topic at hand which, in this case, is child rape & prostitution within Ukraine orphanages. May I suggest you find a different hobby that doesn't include trying to turn every discussion into your own personal soapbox of venom?
  • 19:0002.04.08 Sheila Hanna
    • BTW, if you don't have the brass you-know's to sign your real name then you aren't ready to play with the big dogs. Sign your true name or sit down, shut up, and stop wasting our time.
  • 18:5702.04.08 Sheila Hanna
    • You know, this is really sad & disgraceful...
      Of course, the orphan-whorehouse story that prompted all of this conversation is horrific, but I'm referring to the disgracefully childish postings written as supposed "comments" on the story.
      How infantile and petty do people have to be to put their own personal problems with each other on display like this. Worse still, to undermine and pollute such important information as that provided by Mr. Syrota with such sorry behavior serves only to make everyone involved in trying to get the important message of Human Rights abuses out look like two year old morons.
      Please, stop making the rest of us look bad, keep your schoolyard games to yourselves, and leave the grownups to try to help raise awareness of the problems in Ukraine's adoption system.
      Come on folks - let's all put on our big boy pants and get back to the business at hand.
  • 05:3201.04.08 Anthony Van Der Craats
    • I have to masquerade as other people because I have ruined my own reputation by being banned from Forum UA, Ukrainska Pravda, and Wikipedia just to name a few. Gooday Mate. I also work at Magic Camp in Kharkiv where I offer journalists free trips to Odessa.
  • 04:1601.04.08 Sheila Hanna
    • One additional thought in response to Nestor's comments:
      Nestor, you started your comments by mentioning "there was a couple of self appointed Human Rights Activists/foreign expats...".
      You wrote those words in such a way that it sounded like "self-apponted Human Rights Activists" belong on a par with Jeffrey Dahmer or Charles Manson. Speaking only for myself, I'd have to say that if more people stepped outside of their own petty needs and wants for a while and appointed themselves as "Human Rights Activists", we'd live in a much nicer world and you and I would have far fewer social problems to talk about.
  • 19:2631.03.08 Nestor
    • Sheila
      You should be addressing your concerns to the various International Welfare agencies.
      A couple of years ago there was a couple of self appointed Human Rights Activists/foreign expats from the US and UK masquerading as directors of a People Centred Economic Development company who claimed that Ukrainian Orphanages were Death Camps or Children and alleged that the Ukrainian authorities were engaged in a policy of genocide and mass murder of unwanted children.
      When challenged to substanciate their allegatsons ad provide evidence, which they claimed they had in their possession, they failed to do so.
      Not one International accredited welfare agencies backed their ill-considered claims and allegations. Allegations that caused more harm the good.
      Independent review revealed that they were in fact trying to pump the internet and draw attention to their dubious business plans which they claimed would generate profits that would then be used to help fund Ukrainian Orphanages. There where numerous flaws in their proposals not the least was the economic vilbility of the project. They were effectively a private company that was registered in Ukraine (without a valid registered address, office or asserts). They claimed they had the support of US Aid. Correspondence to US Aid offices in Ukraine failed to substantiate any of the claims they made US Aid had no knowlegde or associatio with the directrios or thir company. They were effectively trying to present themselves as being a private charity organisation whilst seeking to subvert the regulations and public controls that ormally govern charitable organizations.
      Yes Ukraine's Orphanages are under funded but as many welfare workers have attested they are not death camps and the Ukrainian authorities and welfare workers are not engaged in policy of genocide and mass murder of Children.
      Sadly Ukraine is open to misuse and abuse by foreign "snake skin" merchants posing as human rights advocates.
      There is little or insufficent policing of regulations governing and monitorig foriegn NGO's operating in Ukraine's welfare sector.
      I am not saying that your concerns are fraudulent, as others have proven to be, but caution and due diligence are advised.
      Any complaints and concerns should be backed up by hard evidence and referred to the appropriate welfare agencies. Everychild (http://everychild.org) is one such agency that you might like to contact.
  • 18:2731.03.08 Parliamentary privilege
    • Unlike the President, if your take the time to read Ukraine's constitution politicians do not have absolute immunity. The main restrtiction is that a member of parliament can not be arrested without the consent of the parliament. Politicians and judges MUST retain what is commonly known as Qualified privilege and immunity for statements made within the Parliament in fulfillment of parliamentary judicial duties. Without limited immunity members of parliament will not be free to raise issues of public concern. A quick look at England and Canada's Parliamentary system would highlight the level of immunity that members of parliament should poses.
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